Sage Robbins has a way of reminding women who they are beneath all the noise and the roles and the expectations. She speaks with depth and presence. And today we're talking with Sage about what it means to live fully aligned, rooted in purpose, and open to transformation. Let's get started. Sage, it is so good to see you.
Tamsen, it's such a treat to be with you. Thank you. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I I feel like I've been looking forward to this conversation for a while now because we were introduced earlier in the year and I felt very connected to you.
You know, every time I get a voice message from you or every time I get a text from you, it it just makes me it it really does light me up. That's a special thing for somebody to have. So, I just want you to know that. Well, I have to tell you, when I had the invitation to join uh your hottest menopause party, you know, we hadn't met before that, uh but seeing you on stage and how you navigate it, you're s you're such a pro. Uh you're so conscientious, you're freaking brilliant and beautiful.
And I was like, "Wow, this woman is a mythical creature." And I was so I really it was just really um hats off my dear uh to all of who you and just all the lives and women that you're touching. Uh it's it's a gift to be able to join your community. So thank Well, thank you and your comm I mean speaking of community and and um giving back to women and that's really what we want to talk about today because I I feel like there's not you know we we all came into this place without any kind of road map, right? And I think we hit this time and I I have found that my definition of I don't know about you but my definition of community has definitely changed and I thought before it was like oh you have a couple of friends that's the definition of community and now I realize how important it is to just really be aligned in so many different areas and that when you meet that person and and you know we we meet in different ways obviously now we meet online uh you know digitally virtually in person hopefully. I just realized like I connect like I know whether or not I connect and that person is going to be in my life for a long time.
I think that comes with age and gravitas and maybe wisdom, right? I I think so too. And I think you know it's it's interesting the gift of this virtual reality and as well in person is uh we're all like you said there's no playbook. There's no how to in this human experience never mind being a woman. there's some predictable patterns or stages or phases of life or chapters and uh I think it's beautiful to be able to be a mirror. I'm not an expert.
Uh but I'm certainly here to share my life experience and what's worked and what hasn't worked. And I I really spec that respect that about you as well, Tamsen, because you've used your life, the gift of it, the pain of it, uh to be able to help uh others find a kinder way. And I think we really we really meet in that. We do it a little bit differently but in complement to uh really the higher outcome which is just really shining shine on the gift and the power and as well at times the unique challenge of being a woman. So first I want to go into you and your story.
Uh you know you have lived a a very public life. And I I think that you know people people watch somebody and think like oh my gosh you know this is what they're doing that's what they're doing. But a lot a lot comes with that and there's a lot of moments where things change. Can you talk a little bit about you before you know did had you always done inner work with yourself or did you learn that you needed that over time because there are these different seasons where we we need something different. Yes.
Well, I think innocently as a younger woman I thought I was doing inner work. You know the the younger kind of I know mind and I've got this figured out. I don't need that. Oh, I do this. You read a book and believe the innocent and the arrogance of ego like you have.
Oh, I've got that mastered. Um, but I think that's the uh innocent immature immaturity of different stages that I honestly can still even have, you know, to have a miss. Uh, but life evolves us and it has its way with us. And I wasn't always her. She's a, you know, an ever evolving.
I think uh that's what you're reflecting as well, Tamsen, is that uh life is kind because it gives us an opportunity to begin again. I'll look back, Tamsen, at pictures of myself in my 30s and I'll think number one, what on God's green earth was I wearing. Um I was I was going to say my hair. Oh, all the above. You know, I've gone through perms.
You do it all, you know, and you look back and it was like, what was I thinking? But I think that's the gift of life is it's growth and evolution and you you know you try something on and realize gosh this really isn't sincere for me and and I think that's the gift of you'd mentioned wisdom. Uh I think that's what comes through age. uh and you know a younger version of like the maiden and the huntress and all those different archetypes that you know are still an aspect of who we are but I suppose less uh dominant at this stage. There's just a a maturity of uh experiencing life and the gift of it and the pain of it. They both school us I I think so too and I you know I went through I I know we've all been through our our our share of it and I do agree with you.
I agree that there are things I look back on and I was like, "Wow, I I wouldn't wish it on anybody, but I wouldn't be where I am today had I not experienced that in terms of appreciation, in terms of growth, in terms of, you know, who who I became as a result." Yes, absolutely. And I couldn't have sat in front of you here now, you know, as a younger version of myself. You don't know, you know, you just don't know. I think life is the gift of it is is it's an experience and through that experience we uh we learn and uh we grow and certain things fall away certain you know aspects I guess it's it's really also about experiencing our a fuller expression of ourselves and you don't know what you know until you do and life is such um just an invitation you know it's an invitation to grow uh and I really I see that more accurately than I ever have at this stage. Where do you see the invitations?
Because I'm curious about that. I like I like the way that you said that there are invitations to grow and sometimes you maybe my younger self would have said no. And this self goes maybe it's okay. Maybe I'm not so worried about what everybody else thinks. Maybe I'm not so worried about the end result.
Maybe it's okay to accept the invitation for today. I Well, the invitation I feel that pain's an invitation. It's an invitation to like if if my knee or you know I had some hip challenge a little uh a couple years ago and it was inviting my attention. It was saying hello pay attention to me. Uh and so you know I started to find different uh like structural you know alignment exercises and I started to take care of her differently I suppose than I did before. uh an invitation of even this here we are this came from an invitation and we both met and said yes to this moment and you know I look at all my yeses or nos along the way and I think uh life is just I think life is one big invitation to be experienced and to be touched and to uh connect to and I I I see pain the invitation I suppose is uh a younger version of myself it was I avoided it you numb it you distract yourself.
I'm I'm I'm guilty of all the above. And then I feel at this stage the invitation is to really turn towards those schisms in life with inside of ourselves or in uh a containership of a relationship and to get really curious and and and and a uh I suppose a invitation to connect more deeply uh with oursel and with one another. I'm curious how what do you think and how does that land with you or you do you resonate with that? Yeah, 100%. And I mean I I don't think I you look my invitation to to decide to move into advocacy for women's health was never anything.
If you'd have told me that 10 five years ago, 10 years, I would have said, "No, why would I do that? I'm a I'm working on this career. This is the plan. This is the timeline. This is the this is what I'm doing." And so, yeah, I've I've seen that eb and flow. even getting remarried at 50 years old.
I, you know, that was something that I never I mean, I could never have thought that I would accept that, you know, 10 years ago. I I said no to to that that life. And so, uh, yeah, I've definitely seen that. There's no question. And I I think that, you know, you brought up life chapters and there are these chapters in life that have patterns, right?
And and we were talking before we jumped on here, 30 to 40, 40 to 50, 50 to 60. I'd love to go through some of those because you speak to women in all those areas and uh we're going to jump in and talk about something really special you have planned for August that I am really excited to be inviting uh women to all over the world. She's unstoppable and um but but let's talk about some of the things that you have seen in terms of these different chapters in life because you know I'm I'm in like that third chapter right now of the 50 to 60. I'm 54 years old, so I've gone through some of the other ones. Yes.
So, we're in the same chapter. Um, and and but let's talk about some of those chapters like 30 to 40 I I remember some of those and they are predictable patterns in there that are very different. Yes, I agree. Well, 30s to 40s, I think it's I, you know, when I look at each chapter, they're 20 to 30, 30 to 40, 40 to 50, I think each has their gift and each has uh, you know, their challenge and the opportunity uh to um come to understand ourselves and to experience oursel and uh gosh, you know, where I think back to where I was living and you know, just living in an apartment and and having the freedom and and uh you know once again thinking you have you just I don't know I look back at that version of myself I thought I knew so much and I see the innocence of her ignorance and uh and I don't know you just have a different level of invincibility. I hadn't had a real health challenge or you know disrupt like I have I suppose coming into my 40s and uh that really awakens you.
Um, and uh, you know, I met Tony when I was 26 years old. Uh, and so I just look at that, um, that journey and as we all go through it and the seasons and chapters of life, but I, you know, I may look at a picture and see myself in my 30s and think, gosh, wow. You know, when you think you were old or you had a wrinkle, it's like, what the freak? Um, and I'll look here now today, but I I wouldn't change it cuz it's what I and I don't know if you experienced this, but I'll look at pictures of a younger version of myself and I'll see her me here now today. And what I most appreciate of this chapter is just I feel like I'm most the most authentic version of myself and kind of the, you know, external I want your love, approval, and acceptance. uh the external pleasing the external uh that starts to drop away and I have found tremendous uh relief and freedom in that.
I would say that's one big uh shift besides in 30s to 40s innate ATP. I don't even know what do I even know what ATP means but like intrinsic energy intrinsic life force. I love how honest you are about It's true. What the heck? I know.
You know, I I would I would, you know, we would work. I would go to bed at like 4 in the morning. I didn't even have a bedtime. I mean, three in the morning, two in the morning, we would work. We'd be at events.
And it didn't even dawn on me. 30s to 40s, I I missed her. I missed taking care of myself. I missed my health, my well-being. Uh it really wasn't uh my husband would always be like, "Honey, get a massage or do this or take care of yourself." And I was always like, "No, no, no." I wanted him taken care of. I wanted my parents taken care of.
I wanted my friends taken care of. I wanted my family taken care of. But I missed her. I missed me. I did And truthfully, it wasn't until probably like maybe 43, 44.
Well, life humbles you. you know, it it strips you down and uh that vitality that that um just life force energy. It's not that it goes away, but uh I suppose life was inviting me to pay attention um to to her. What happened during that time that was important to do that? Because you you met Tony at a young age. I mean, you know, 26 is young and you go into your 30s and, you know, and I remember 26, I was so into my career, I couldn't even I was moving city to city to city to city.
I meet somebody, I'm like, no, I'm not staying in this city. So, no. So, I didn't get married until I was 34, but I did it in this like rush of, oh my gosh, I'm in my mid30s. I'm on a timeline now. I can't get to 40 and not be with somebody.
I mean, can you I look at it now and I'm like, what was I thinking? And of course I made a terrible decision. A terrible decision. But um but did do you think that that was that meeting somebody young made you uh grow grow up a little bit faster? Yes.
I mean we were traveling the world. We would on average like we were traveling 265 days of the year even more than that. We would travel the globe twice a year. We were doing events. You know it was we worked incredibly hard in 20s to 30s.
It was like go go go, you know. It was uh it was intense. And like I said, I didn't even it was just like one thing after another after another. And but it really it schooled me. Uh just the gift of being in different cultures and different experiences being with people from all around the world.
Uh it opens your mind and heart and uh expands your mind and heart. And I I really I wouldn't trade I wouldn't want to go back to that like living on the road at that level even though we still do travel obviously but not to that acuteness but it really shaped me as a human being. Uh it really humbled me as a human being you know in my 40s it was almost like uh I don't know like a plug got pulled and uh I woke up and what the heck you know I I think we did we we all kind of did right? Yes, I I agree with you. What what was that like when you woke up uh with that?
Do you think that was uh I mean health obviously starts to shift there, right? Everybody's health shifts a little bit differently. Um I know what mine did. Mine was more of like my mental health and there was there was physical too, but I I was so determined to push through it. I didn't really pay too much attention to it till my late 40s when I had no choice.
What What was it that you um woke up challenged with in the 40s? Well, I think Tamsen, you brought something up so um so relevant and and I I can really relate to the pushing through what I was able to push through at one stage actually felt insincere like I just didn't have that same even though like I can mentally will myself to do anything. Uh it was just hello this body of mine was you know what I mean? I never drank coffee in my life. Yes.
I never drank coffee in my life. I started to drink coffee when you know when I was like 40 years old and I was like what the heck this is amazing. Um but before that I didn't feel like I needed it you know and so uh I don't know there was adaptations I suppose and uh but self-reflection and it didn't happen right away Tamsen um it felt I didn't feel like myself like birth and death is happening at all times and when I look back from this perspective to that version of myself it felt like like you know who I was was it doesn't sound dramatic IC, but it felt like, you know, the it's like the structures like crumbling or who I was, it wasn't dying. I don't mean that in a dramatic sense, but it's like I think we do. I think there's parts of oursel that do have to die in order for something new to be born, to be birthed.
That's I suppose a more uh honest uh and connected and sincere version for for ourselves. And and that was really transformative and that was really empowering. And I realized, you know, nobody missed me more than me. At first, I was like scrambling and going to different doctors and endocrinologists. And plus before that, I had done, you know, extreme cycles of I say extreme extreme because it was many of IVF.
And you know, I miscarried uh like numerous times. And so there was all these stackings of beginning hormones and the pill to go on to IVF and what the heck. So at 44 I I felt like all of that caught up to me. Caught up to me. I believe that.
I believe that. And so much pain uh also that caught up. So what did you what did you did you have to establish a boundary at 44 or did you and and what did that did it cost anything or is it is it the thing that's allowed you to be whole now, you know, this many years later? You know, it's interesting. It wasn't so much of a boundary.
It was just the fact of tuning in. It was a fact of actually like reflecting and noticing and paying attention to what uh I had ignored before. You know, Tony always talks about uh the power of being, you know, our own CEO of our health. And I think up to that point, I was really looking for answers outside of myself. Uh and I'd say the last I how old am I? not quite decade, but over this last decade, it's really been about how can I take care of her?
How can I support her? And like it's a question I ask myself. I'll wake up and be like, "All right, h I'll call myself sweetheart." Oh, I like that. Yes. I'll be like, "All right, sweetheart.
How how can I support you?" You know, if I'm in between meetings or zooms, it's like, "How can I bless my body?" That question is like within. And so it can be as simple of having a sip of water or you know ju different practices that uh through meditation through prayer through physical nourishment starting uh my morning with like lemon water first thing in the morning and uh drinking warm water I know that sounds so simplistic but that's been such a game changer for my health for my vitality. Do you think that Tony realized that you needed to do that and take care of yourself and was seeing that on the outside, but you didn't see it? 100%. He was a mirror and he was so empathetic and offering. Uh, but I tuned him out.
I tuned him out. I thought he didn't understand all the things that I had to do and I rationalized and justified and just kept pushing it aside and pushing it aside. And I think that that's I think our superpower of being a woman is our capacity to love and to hold like these wide wings of caring and and and and and love and and holding so many in our hearts. I think the blind spot is when if we don't hold oursel as well and so and nobody else can do that. If a if a woman is listening to this and those emotional symptoms hit hard, you know, they just hit, what should a woman uh do first?
Like, is there somebody she should talk to? Does she need to talk to herself? What what steps do you take? Because I I think that that's a big challenge, you know, because if you're if you're sitting in this, it's not as easy to see it as we see it right now, but if it's a young woman that's listening to this and wants to feel like you feel now, what do you think? What's your advice for the first steps for her to take?
I would say that okay if I'm feeling a big uh emotional wave and feeling emotionality recognizing that that's that's my job and so life gives us this moment to take a breath life offers us this moment one of the greatest gifts I really believe in this existence is like what it's like it was just complicated it was just messy it was dramatic okay I I I can begin again I can begin again in this moment. And that's really powerful. And no matter how complicated or painful or messy life seems to be, that through our willingness to see ourselves and to take responsibility for our experience and our health and our well-being of life, that truly anything's possible. I think that it's this shift from it's your fault. You did this.
He did this. She did this. This doctor didn't hear me. This that was oh my gosh, they didn't what whatever whatever the story and the labels that we place upon the external to really whoa I I through simple awareness and practices I can shift how I experience life and how I experience my own body and I can tune into her in this moment. tuning in and the power of that has completely changed how I relate to life and I go to sleep I don't have this mastered if I fall asleep in a in a moment you know this this moment here now offers me an opportunity to wake up Tamsen and I think we grow up you wise up you lose the empty calories the the food that's no longer needed by the way I still have a sweet tooth um you know maybe four cups of coffee goes down to one cup of coffee. What am I putting and feeding in my mind?
Staying in my own business like you know before social media I I literally just joined social media last year. I was 50 years old and and and just uh began uh that journey and that was a gift of not what I see the seduction of social media is we get into everybody else's business and once again we miss ourselves. We miss ourselves. It's very true. I was going to say when you said you didn't start social media till you were 50, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, how many great years did you have?" Of not worrying about that, which really like I I felt a pang of like, "Wow, maybe did you miss anything?" Not Not Not really.
No, nothing. I I don't think so at all. Besides, here's what has schooled me about social media. I think it's it's how we use it and what I find to be so powerful about social media Tamsen is the fact that it it forms a community. Yes. you you know of likeminded likehearted we kind of find each other in this world and and so I think if it's used as a uh a pathway to um to grow to enlighten our minds about wonderful tools or opportunities or you know finding your book how to how to menopause uh if somebody comes across that I think that's really beautiful because before you know you're limited to going to a bookstore or I don't know reading or magazine or something like that or the news, but I so I suppose it's a curator for information and it's an opportunity for us as human beings to share our gifts, to share our experience with the world.
The rest of it bless I'm with you. I'm I'm so with you. And I like to look at it like that, too. Okay. So, I want to go back through and and go to the next uh category of uh 50 to 60 because I think you know 40 40 to 50 is a little bit.
Did you feel like that freedom? Because I know there's, you know, I talk a lot about obviously pmenopause and menopause and that pmenopause time starts in the 40s where you're going, "Yes, who am I? Am I literally is there literally something wrong with me? And am I ever going to get back to who I was?" Because you don't know where you're going. So all you know, all you have is the history, right, of of who you've been and you you think that's who you're still supposed to be.
Did you feel that time because you had a lot of other things going on with regard to IVF with regard to miscarriages with regard I mean you were going through two overlaps at the same time. True. And Tamsen, you just you said something so powerful cuz I'd say probably the acute pain in my early 40s uh maybe like say 44 to 45 is more accurate was mind I was comparing myself to who I used to be and that was painful. That was really that was really the real pain rather than you know all right hello here I am this version of myself and having compassion for her and getting to know her at this stage and I think that that's the grace and gift as I have aged and stepped into my 50s now I'm 51 and the freedom the freedom that comes really the power and the gift of this chapter of life cuz it's actually hands down my favorite. I would not go back to my 30s.
I would not go back to my 40s. Uh bless. I mean, I I'm grateful for it all. I enjoyed it. There was gifts, but I'm really enjoying being where I am here now.
And I feel when I felt so out of sorts in my 40s. At this stage, I'm like, "Wow, this is what it feels like to be a human being. This is what it feels like to be a woman. I feel like a baby on the path. I feel uh well on one hand you feel older because of the age and yet I've never felt younger in the sense like my life is just begun and that's cool and that's amazing.
That is absolutely something that I've experienced and still do. Yeah. And I I think that uh I I love that because I I agree with you completely. I I know my age. I I know logically, factually my age, but I also know that I've never felt quite so free.
I don't lose myself in relationships anymore. And um I did that for a very, very long time. Uh and I lost all kinds of relationships, whether we're talking about um personal relationships, talking about friendships or work relationships. I felt like I lost who I was. And then I lost myself in my own head.
And now at 54, I go, "Oh, I know who I am. And I'm more excited than ever to see what tomorrow brings versus trying to see who I was yesterday and and still um be that be that woman. You know, it's interesting. I used to always say, gosh, I love it when men age and you see like, you know, their faces and the wisdom and the character. And to be fair, I didn't have that same story for women.
I feel through my own maturity, I see women differently today at all stages. And I see beauty at all stages. And yes, there's the external, but I think true beauty is really an internal representation. And that's the gift of um I suppose self-acceptance and and self like supporting the self and as well having practices of uh tuning into her and letting go of what's no longer needed. And I find it quite liberating uh at this stage of my life to recognize it's me.
It's all me. And and it's not about losing oursel because I think there's also you know you mentioned about losing oursel in a relationship and uh I just lost myself period. It wasn't about losing myself. I just lost myself. I just ignored myself.
More accurate. I didn't lose myself. I ignored myself. And I feel at this stage you know the freedom is just actually getting to know who I am as a human being as a as a heart as a soul as a mother as a wife as a friend. and and uh that's really powerful. You know, you have uh the the summit coming up which I I I love for so many reasons.
You know, when we did the world's hottest menopause party, I wanted it to be accessible and free. And I and I'd never done anything like that before. And so I confided that I confided that in you. I said, I don't I've never done this. Uh but it it was so important for me to just try.
Uh, so that's why I'm so excited about She's Unstoppable. Thank you. You are going to reach and have reached so many women. Can you talk about what you're doing to to give back because it's a three-day event. It's an event that any any woman can access.
Um, I'd love to know, you know, the the mission behind it, obviously, and then also how women can do that because I think in this day and age, we have so many different pockets of things that we're we're asking people to do and some people, you know, maybe can't pay for something or, you know, or they don't know how to do it or they can't get to the city, but this is virtual. This is um about giving back. Yes, it is. It's a Thanks for asking, Tim. And yes, it's a virtual event.
We only do it once a year. There's no cost whatsoever. To give you context, Tamsen, uh last year, I think I mentioned we had close to 500,000 women tune in from all around the world. And this year's format, it's going to be a three-day uh event, just two short hours a day. You know what's beautiful about it is this collective you know we all as we mentioned like even on social media it's like whatever's guided you and I and your listeners your audience to this moment uh that is amazing to me and I think that that's the unstoppable force that I didn't recognize was within us you know the unstoppable creativity the unstoppable grace the unstoppable love the unstoppable capacity to renew, to begin again, uh to connect to her, I find so powerful.
And I think sometimes the unique opportunity as women is we can get stuck in our roles and Certainly, at least I have as a younger version of myself. And it's like, you know, wife, mother, I'm this, I'm that. And then it's like, yes. And it's like, yes, those are aspects of ourel. We have many different facets of oursel. to recognize that there is a powerful intuitive creative instinctive force that lies within uh each of us no matter what our life circumstance look like.
And this is event is you know becoming a mother. I really recognize that gosh, like to tap into to take time to tune into her and to really unleash her so that we can uh be all of who we are and to continue to reinvent her and explore her and experience all the many facets of self. And that's that's why uh we created uh our she's unstoppable summit. What do you think um women come there um looking for? because I I think that at this time in life and no matter what, you know, what age it is, I think we're looking for a lot of the same thing. You know, we're looking for some um direction, right?
We don't come nothing comes with a road map. And I think for we're also looking for somebody to tell us that there there is more, right? That maybe, you know, that because you chose one path doesn't mean you have to stay on that path. And I think that that she's unstoppable. Just those two two words, you know, say that to somebody and can be very uh inspiring to move them to the next place, wherever they are, whether they're talking about a work or passion or relationships or spirituality or, you know, whatever whatever it is they want to do to move You know, I didn't know as a younger version that I could free myself.
I didn't know that there was a kinder way through. I didn't know that there was an inner freedom inside myself. If I didn't know that I could tidy up this internal mess and learn the tools and strategies and practices that I could free her. That's powerful and as a human, as a woman, that is what I'm most passionate about. And hence why we're doing this free event uh to be able to shed light because I think you know uh women come for like human beings.
You know, we all come for different reasons, but they're relatable. It's all relatable. I am you. you or me, we're all we're all connected and our context might look different. The narrative, but really it's, you know, pain is pain, loss is loss, grief is grief, sadness is sadness, feeling our health, loing, losing our health, gaining our health, death, life, like life offers it all. And there's no shortcuts.
And uh when we do uh claim her and connect to her, it's a beautiful reality. I love being a woman. I love everything about it and uh and I also see its gifts, its power and as well its own unique challenges. And so I think to recognize that and to recognize that um there can be a kinder way and uh that's really what I'm most passionate about. I feel like you are so grounded in you now.
Is there one practice that grounds you when nothing else is working? The greatest sanity uh that I have come to recognize is that it's me. I am 100% responsible for what I'm experiencing. That was the biggest shift. I mean, this is what a younger version of myself if if it was between Tony and I, why don't you understand me?
Like, you never understand me. You're not present with me. You're not listening to me. And I didn't recognize that I wasn't listening to her. How could I ex expect anybody to understand me when I wasn't understanding myself?
I It's like be present with me. What does that even mean? Be present with me. Do you know what I mean? Yes.
So that's probably the biggest shift was the ex like just catching myself. And I still like I I I like I said, I don't have this mastered, but I catch to drop the external blame, demonization. We all know what that sounds like. We all know when we do it. uh feels resistant. It feels uh like stuck energy and it's it's unnecessary emotion that fuels our life in a way that is um only creates confusion.
That was my experience. And so that's probably been the greatest liberation is, hey, hello, it's me. I can claim and take care of this body and being. I can shift what things mean to me. That's freaking freedom.
That's freedom. You know, I've I've watched since we've met everything you stand for and who you are. And I I think it's really special for people to know it. I'm excited about She's unstoppable. And I I the fact that you have half a million people and I can't imagine, you know, how many more there will be this time.
Um what makes you feel so excited about um doing a summit like that? What was the reason behind it initially? Was it just seeing, you know, the growth that you felt like you had gone through or just seeing what people were reaching out asking? I think all the above. I think all the above.
I think being a a mother really so humbled me and uh then just you know going through my own journey like we just talked about and recognizing that wow like this is you know I I connect with uh you know friends that are say 10 years younger than me and I'm like oh I remember that I remember believing that feeling that living that and so I think it's just kind for us as women to come together and to unite and to recognize that individually and collectively we have the capacity to rise above the madness in our mind to uh understand and to heal uh our bodies and beings to move forward together because I think there's power in uh the collective especially when it's unified uh to heal to bring kindness to bring goodness to love to celebrate the gift of being a woman. Uh, and to connect to all of our many different facets of self, uh, that isn't always I don't know. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. And I thought I was this.
If I was this, I wasn't that. I thought I was that, I wasn't this. And it felt disconnected. And so for me, I'm just passionate about shedding light on the beauty, the gift, the power, the strength, the vulnerability of being a woman and uh sharing that with others that feel the same. Let's share our light.
Let's share our love. Let's illuminate our world. Let's heal our as I heal my world, my world here now, that affects the world around me. I find that so liberating and so extraordinarily powerful because it isn't just the politicians. It isn't just the world leaders that have the capacity to cultivate world peace.
That's you and I. It's like let's not add to the schism. Let's if you don't like social media and people, you know, talking less kind or or dropping, you know, whatever comments, don't do it. Shed light, shed love, shed kindness. I think like we as women, that's our greatest superpower is our capacity to love.
So, let's share it. Sage, where can people find you? Oh, yes, of course. Well, I'm on Instagram, of course. And as well, for anybody that's interested in the uh she's unstoppable summit, it's she's And the dates of the summit.
Absolutely. The dates of the summit are August 20th, 21st, and 24th. Sage, thank you for sharing your time. Sage doesn't perform power. She lives it with softness, clarity, and conviction.
Her words stay with you because they speak to something true. I'm leaving this conversation more grounded, more opened, and certainly more aware of what
